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"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti) 03/26/2020 at 13:15 • Filed to: None

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When you act like a bunch of pinche gringos.

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ttyymmnn > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 13:19

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There was a story this morning about Chinese students paying thousands of dollars for seats on private planes to escape the virus in NY. Irony is a difficult word to define, but you know it when you see it.

TheRealBicycleBuck > ttyymmnn 03/26/2020 at 13:27

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I wonder how many students, regardless of nationality, already contracted the virus and have now carried it back home.

fintail > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 13:27

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If I shared a border with AZ and TX I’d have done this ages ago.

ttyymmnn > TheRealBicycleBuck 03/26/2020 at 13:43

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I would say “lots.” Commercial aviation, and the highly contagious nature of the virus, made this a pandemic.

DipodomysDeserti > fintail 03/26/2020 at 13:52

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I’ve been campaigning to build a wall around Arizona for quite some time. You can come in, but you have to leave your car parked outside and hop on a horse.

DipodomysDeserti > TheRealBicycleBuck 03/26/2020 at 13:54

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Not just students either. There’s tons of trade between Arizona and Mexico. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 13:57

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Horses can carry coronavirus.

Seriously though, from the BBC story, the claim is only 500 cases in Mexico but the sarcasm in me wants to ask how many people have been tested, like 500? I read today that New Orleans is experiencing a big spike in cases because apparently, nobody got the email about COVID before Mardi Gras kicked off.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > fintail 03/26/2020 at 13:58

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Idaho is trying to get Nevada to close its border with California.

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/26/2020 at 14:03

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WA has been trying to get OR to close its border with CA for 30 years.

DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/26/2020 at 14:03

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I’m more concerned about water and air quality then getting coronavirus.

T he enteric coronavirus that infects horses is completely different than the one that causes Covid 19. I haven’t seen any studies showing horse to human transmissibility.

I’m sure there are quite a few cases in Mexico. Surprised Mexico City hasn’t been hit seeing how international it is.

ranwhenparked > ttyymmnn 03/26/2020 at 14:04

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Ive heard that China is becoming an ironic safe haven for people from Europe as well, due to the perception that they have the virus under control there. The ChiComs are not terribly happy about the influx, for obvious reasons.

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 14:06

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I ought to just clarify that the Mexican government’s official position is that our borders are open. All the restrictions put in place at the moment are petitions the US government made and we are respecting.

Those people in Sonora are being pointlessly defensive; Mexico has done less than 3000 COVID-19 tests. The real numbers in our country are, probably, significantly higher than what the government is reporting.

TheRealBicycleBuck > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 14:10

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There’s t ons of trade between Mexico and everywhere through the Texas border. Truck traffic passes from Mexico through Brownsville, up the I-35 corridor all the way to Duluth. Trucks can head east or west on I-10 in Texas or I-40 in Oklahoma. I-10 goes east to Florida and west to California. I-40 goes through Memphis and Nashville on its way to Raleigh, NC.

We know spring breakers going to Padre Island brought coronavirus to Brownsville (we have family down there). The case count is up to 14 today. T he area is poised for an outbreak.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 14:12

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I assume you’re washing your hands (a lot) more these days, though, and taking other precautions.

When I mentioned horses and coronavirus, I was thinking along a different tack. I have read that the family pet can pick up and carry around the virus on its outside coat, so if you snuggle with your dog whilst on quarantine, you can turn your dog into a spreader. The grooming parlor around the corner closed for that supposed reason.

It seems to me there must be plenty of carriers and infected in Mexico right now with coronavirus.

Do you ever read Victor David Hansen? He had a column today that I actually made it through most of, wherein he mentions Iran, and how Iran has cozied up to China, and how Chinese patrons knowingly carried coronavirus into Iran. I thought it was an interesting point. Also, VDH points out that right now, the people lowest on the socioeconomic totem pole — truck drivers, Walmart cashiers, gig-working Amazon drivers — are the least dispensable . There are plenty of such examples throughout American history, I suppose.

How are you h olding up? How’s the fam?

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > fintail 03/26/2020 at 14:20

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Instead, you ended up with me.

The border should be much further down. I don’t know if we want SF, but it’s almost the southernmost point in the PNW. The environment changes quite dramatically from south to north in CA.

fintail > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/26/2020 at 14:24

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I notice the change once I get to Medford, and definitely by SF.

In the olden days it was mostly LA types causing havoc here, but now a lot of SF Bay money has migrated and kind of brought their troubles with them.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 03/26/2020 at 14:25

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There’s some belief bouncing around that it doesn’t spread as well in warmer climates, so people are banking on warm weather protecting them.

This whole thing has caused a spike in international flight prices, so we probably won’t be going to Mexico this year like we do most years.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/26/2020 at 14:26

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We’ve done less than 3000 tests. We had the same problem the US had in the beginning; many labs aren’t authorized to do the test. A couple of states have told the feds to go fuck themselves (Jalisco and Nuevo Leon), and they’re supposedly gonna start a mass testing regime. 

DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/26/2020 at 14:28

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I’ve always washed my hands a lot. I volunteered as a CNA at my local VA in high school and learned at a young age how easily illness can spread. My degree is also in health sciences. Minus the whole putting plastic on everything, this really is how you should always act.

Yeah, viruses can live on pretty much any surface, including horse hair, but UV will eventually kill it.

The epidemiological and political nuances of this are going to be interesting to study when this dies down.

We’re good. Close fam is starting to lose jobs and wages, so were starting get into communal mode.

How’s everyone on your end?

DipodomysDeserti > ranwhenparked 03/26/2020 at 14:29

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Europeans seem to love authoritarianism in uncertain times.

DipodomysDeserti > Spanfeller is a twat 03/26/2020 at 14:31

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Not a lot of trust among Norteños for the feds to keep them safe.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/26/2020 at 14:34

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A dangerous assumption as MERS is a corona virus and that had no problem in saudi arabia/egypt.

Spanfeller is a twat > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/26/2020 at 14:42

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It’s inconclusive....but I really hope it’s true because it would be a true miracle that would save thousands of lives. 

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > fintail 03/26/2020 at 14:43

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I’m originally from Los Angeles and lived for quite a while in San Diego... We don’t like the people of San Francisco down there and I feel like they’re the major California problem here as well.

Just from personal experience, when you hit roughly Santa Cruz, the weather and environment starts rapidly changing from relatively warm and arid to cooler, wetter, and forested. A lot of Humboldt county and beyond are environmentally indistinguishable from the coastal regions further north and/or the Olympic Peninsula.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 03/26/2020 at 14:44

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I agree, but that’s what everyone seems to be banking on these days.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 03/26/2020 at 14:45

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I doubt it because Australia is dealing with it and they’re in their warm season.

ranwhenparked > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 14:49

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Well, Xi does know how to make the trains run on time.

On a completely unrelated note, tardiness is the third  leading cause of death among train conductors, after cancer and outspokenness. 

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 14:55

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During the Spanish flu epidemic, most of the deaths were along the US-Mexico border, if they really care about their health, they should stay at home as much as humanly possible rather than playing their police officer fantasies. The border has to stay open for the entire country to work, we import a shit ton of food from the US, and many people (Mexicans in the US, and Americans in Mexico) need to be able to access healthcare products they’re entitled to. Specially now.

I don’t trust the feds either, but we have to make do or else a majority of people, specifically the poor, will suffer a lot more. Sonora has a state government as well, which has the power to issue their guidelines too.

When I deplaned ten days ago, Mexico City’s Social Security system staff was taking the temperature of every passenger off the plane; not the feds.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > TheRealBicycleBuck 03/26/2020 at 14:59

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Shit-tons. NZ is still in the early stages of the outbreak, but a sizable proportion   of our cases have been traced to Kiwis returning home to ride it out.

Spanfeller is a twat > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/26/2020 at 15:00

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I’m not holding my breath... we’re gonna have to be really lucky for this to be  controllable.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 15:20

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Epidemiological and political nuances.   I just want it to die down. I read an account this morning from a hospital in NYC and multiple deaths every shift. Yikes.

We’re tied to education. Inlaws are either retired or nursing. So financially, we are blessed right now. If it blows over by Summer, we should all be good.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 03/26/2020 at 15:23

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So the infection rate and or the mortality rates are given with a known numerator and a very fuzzy denominator. I was telling DD that I read today about New Orleans having a massive number of infections popping up because they didn’t get the COVID email and held Mardi Gras anyway. Or at least that’s how it was presented on Politico.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail 03/26/2020 at 15:38

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Methford*

fintail > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/26/2020 at 15:56

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And around LA there are divided groups too as you no doubt know - someone from OC or Simi Valley will be different from someone from Santa Monica or Torrance or Pasadena. But they all got to bid up local real estate!

RallyWrench > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 16:49

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Unrelated happy motorcycle stuff, j ust saw this and thought of you:

https://slo.craigslist.org/cto/d/morro-bay-yamaha-tw200-scrambler/7099236925.html

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2020 at 17:47

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So the Mexican/US border is still open? Wow! I’d have thought it’d be closed to everything but freight.

Here in Oz, all the state borders are effectively closed to everyone bar emergency personnel, essential travellers and freight.

If you do want to cross a state border and it's declared non-essential then it’s a mandatory 14 day self isolation and your location is registered with the authorities - minimum $1000 fine if you do not comply.

DipodomysDeserti > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 03/26/2020 at 19:01

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I was under the impression both the US and Mexico had shut them down down to non essential travel. My guess is the Mexican border patrol on the northern border aren’t so effective at enforcing this.

DipodomysDeserti > RallyWrench 03/26/2020 at 19:04

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Very cool. I have a dissembled 450 that my STEM class was in the middle of repairing.

How’s everything going?

RallyWrench > DipodomysDeserti 03/27/2020 at 13:38

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I remembered that class project, that was so cool!

Hanging in here, so far automotive repair has been deemed “essential” though I have mixed feelings about that as compared to medical staff, grocers and restaurants . Thankful to still have a job, at least, but business is way, way off. As expected, really. I’m rotating a skeleton crew to try and avoid layoffs, but we’ll see. Family is all healthy thus far at least, but it’s not widespread here yet because we’re fairly rural . My wife is going a bit nuts with the kids out of school and her out of work now, but we’re working it out together like everyone else.

How about you? Able to work from home, I hope? Stay healthy man , I’m sure you’re well prepared. Best to the family, hope this affords some time to enjoy the desert in springtime, at least. Gotta look for silver linings.

DipodomysDeserti > RallyWrench 03/27/2020 at 14:39

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Glad to hear you at least have some income coming in. My wife and I work at the same school and have been teaching from home for the last two weeks. Our kid’s school has also transitioned. I’m available to my students via chatrooms all day, so between my kids and my students I’m teaching five or six classes all day. I’m still able to do my side hustle remotely, but my wife lost most of her side work (photography and art). Rest of my family is hanging in there. T hankfully I live in the same neighborhood as my brother and sister so we can pool resources. I’m pretty confident we’ve all been exposed as my sister is a nurse, and has had patients with flu like symptoms testing negative for flu for the last month or so. Not really concerned for ourselves as we’re all healthy, but we have kept my grandma quarantined and have the kiddos facetiming her every day. Just trying to stay positive and avoid the negative Nancies out there. We’re already in the shit, no use freaking out now.

DipodomysDeserti > RallyWrench 03/27/2020 at 14:52

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On the desert front, my street bor ders a mountain preserve, and there is no car access to trailheads in my hood so the trails are empty. Getting the pup and kids out for hikes every day, and our air quality has been awesome the last two weeks on account of the shutdown. Kids are getting a very good ecology lesson from all this.

I can see clear to the southeast edge of the valley and Four Peaks which is usually only possible after a good rain.

RallyWrench > DipodomysDeserti 03/27/2020 at 15:27

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Glad to hear the same for you, and that your family is also nearby. Nice to have loved ones close to help and be helped if needed. Sorry to hear about your wife’s side gig, but thankful you’re both able to maintain the school work. W e’ve done the same for our parents and both my sisters are close as well. I’m the only one out and working, facing the public (what there is of it) , so I’m the store runner and gopher for everyone as needed and doing my best to minimize risk and exposure for myself and the guys at the shop. Thankful to have any income, even if it’s diminished. There are so many hurting out there now, it’s awful and spooky. It is w eird not to be able to hug my kids right away when I get home. Hope your sister is in good spirits, hospital staff have got to be under incredible stress.  

RallyWrench > DipodomysDeserti 03/27/2020 at 15:40

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This is so, so bitchin’. S toked the kids are getting out in it, that’s solid parenting when so many are getting screens thrown at them . The air quality change is such a crazy unforeseen benefit , it’s amazing . From what I know of the topography, industry, and population of the southwest working against air quality , I’ll bet it’s an incredible difference. I can’t help but think that at its heart, this crisis is earth telling us to fuck off. I hope people learn from it. Not optimistic, but I can hope.

My neighborhood is at the foot of a small range of hills and a state park with awesome trails, and I’d be more than ok with the road into it closing because I/we can just backdoor hike or bike in from the house and have the place to myself . I’ve been night riding out there anyway before all this started, it’s another world with no one around. Staying the hell away from people outdoors? No problem.

DipodomysDeserti > RallyWrench 03/27/2020 at 16:19

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Was reading an article yesterday saying a very similar virus has been found in Pangolins, and they’re pretty sure that’s how the initial infections started. Pangolins are the most illegally trafficked animal in the world, so there’s definitely an ecological connection with this thing (as there always is).

T hat peak is my favorite. Being able to find total solitude while surrounded by 6 million people is surreal. Butterflies and hawks flying around, wildflowers everywhere, occasional coyote. They rerouted air traffic coming into Sky Harbor a few years back and I don’t even get planes flying over anymore.